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what the nra never mentions is that that gun control legislation was supported by nra member and former president, ronald reagan. that is coming up. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth is, dayquil doesn't treat that. really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relie
what the nra never mentions is that that gun control legislation was supported by nra member and former president, ronald reagan. that is coming up. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ]...
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do you think the nra -- sorry, do you think the nra is arming african-american communities and drugging them up for each other? >> bob: they help arm america. yes. >> dana: why do you think the police told not to drive? he was a danger to society, because he was drunk. if he got in the bentley then the bentley could have been used as a murder weapon. that's what he would have gotten done for if he had driven a car. jason whitlock doesn't talk about the personal responsibility that belcher has. then it's our fault. how is it our fault that he -- he was on drugs. had troubled past. we brought up this morning the things -- he had anger management issues. this goes to the mental health, dealing with the anger and sudden fame and all of a sudden you have this money. it can't be my fault he made that decision. >> eric: it's not your fault. >> bob: it's the people with problems -- >> greg: like that. >> dana: he based, the cops let him off because he was like that. he was wealthy, famous, part of a great team and they wanted him to be suck sus elf. >> eric: like that is the constitutional frig
do you think the nra -- sorry, do you think the nra is arming african-american communities and drugging them up for each other? >> bob: they help arm america. yes. >> dana: why do you think the police told not to drive? he was a danger to society, because he was drunk. if he got in the bentley then the bentley could have been used as a murder weapon. that's what he would have gotten done for if he had driven a car. jason whitlock doesn't talk about the personal responsibility that...
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various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but this statement actually was different. "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." the nra's planning to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21st. a major news conference planned for tomorrow in response to that mass shooting. as far as we can tell, the nra has never reacted to a mass shooting in the way that they are very proudly promoting this news conference for tomorrow. they've certainly never said anything like they said in this statement about being prepared to offer meaningful contributions
various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but...
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membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership of the nra, there's a notion it's these mom and pop hunters, but at the end of the day, there's a huge amount of corporate support. we looked at their tax returns, bloomberg business week did, we looked at that article, their revenue in 2010 was $227.8 million. fundraising, sales, advertising, and royalties were $115 million. there's a whole web, tiers of corporate giving dubbed the ring of freedom, and you have firearm manufacturers who are giving millions, if not tens of millions of dollars, to the nra, eric. >> they made a stat
membership and nra leadership. nra leaders are very ideological and they are largely funded by the industry, whereas gun owners are just regular people who like hunting and like owning guns. what obama is trying to say, look, most gun owners would support these restrictions. they don't want crazy people to have easy access to what he's calling weapons of war, which is probably good terminology. the nra needs to recognize they are extremely vulnerable here. >> if you look at the membership...
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luckily, the power of the nra was shown to be a paper tiger in the last election. i think that knowledge is going to have to be broadcast and assimilated that you can take on the nra and live to tell about it. you know, no right is absolute. we have the first amendment right to freedom of speech, but you can't get away with yelling fire in a crowded theater. so second amendment, the supreme court has ruled the second amendment confers a personal right to carry arms, but it doesn't confer a personal right to carry machine guns or grenade launchers or semiautomatic weapons, or large magazine clips. there is no hunter that needs more than three bullets in a rifle to hunt. anything beyond that is not only fair subject for regulation, but absolutely ought to be banned. >> but there is very few hunters out there that want to be hold what kind of firearm they can use. this is the urban divide that the president talked about today. over the last 30 years before i came to work here in new york. it's two different worlds. you go to the middle of the country and they say don'
luckily, the power of the nra was shown to be a paper tiger in the last election. i think that knowledge is going to have to be broadcast and assimilated that you can take on the nra and live to tell about it. you know, no right is absolute. we have the first amendment right to freedom of speech, but you can't get away with yelling fire in a crowded theater. so second amendment, the supreme court has ruled the second amendment confers a personal right to carry arms, but it doesn't confer a...
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it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table off the top here. i watched that press conference or that statement with mounting horror and anger, but i was also aware that a lot of people in america would have watched it and said he's right. >> yeah, people will say that the answer to every escalating sort of violent act in america is the ability to use more violence to counter that. and it never stops. so you're going to give a security guard a regular gun against someone who has an assault weapon. so when the assault weapon overpowers the regular gun, you give the security guard in the school an assault weapon, where does this end? it doesn't end.
it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table...
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the nra can't -- they can't say anything now. they can't -- you know, they can't whisper a word without getting slammed by anybody. you so, the politicians, too, nobody is going to say anything that doesn't fit with the sentiment of the country right now. that's grieving. >> you know, part of the grieving process has been done on social media now. and i've heard from the people of this community how much it's helped to see tweets that people have sent to them. in some cases, in the case of one of the daughters of victim this morning, she said she's gotten thousands. thousands. there's a dark side, though. connecticut state police are saying they are looking to arrest people who have posted misinformation about the shootings. impersonating the shooter and investigators. it seems unfathomable that one would want to add to the heartache. my question is, how easy for someone to do that and how complicated is it for police to prosecutor that? >> it is unfathomable. it's not understandable. people don't know that impedes the investigat
the nra can't -- they can't say anything now. they can't -- you know, they can't whisper a word without getting slammed by anybody. you so, the politicians, too, nobody is going to say anything that doesn't fit with the sentiment of the country right now. that's grieving. >> you know, part of the grieving process has been done on social media now. and i've heard from the people of this community how much it's helped to see tweets that people have sent to them. in some cases, in the case...
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but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the sandy hook tragedy could have been averted if the teachers had been harmed. >> we've said, no, no, no, no, there's something really special and who knows what about those schools and maybe the teachers can't be trusted with a gun there. >> would this be a less free country if you couldn't have an assault rifle? >> well yb away. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. >> and finally in some other news, we may be closer to a deal on the fiscal cliff than ever before and it may come down to selling any deal that boehner and obama strike to their respective rank and file. today, boehner will meet with house republicans after mak
but we can let them know that we mourn with them. >> and while opponents protested the nra, the nra told nbc news it will not comment until the facts are thoroughly known. they deactivated their facebook page on sasht after celebrating getting to 1.7 million fans during the week, by the way. so it's the gun owners of america, a gun rights group to the right of the nra that's filling the void. the group's executive director, larry pratt, told "hardball"'s chris matthews, the...
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martha: you know, a lot of people have criticized the silence from the nra. we understand that they will speak out today. people feel, many of them, that their voices will join this chorus to call for an end to certain weapons and that would be a good thing going forward. what do you say to this? >> i expected the nra will say that this is not, to their mind, the responsibility of people that are legitimate gun owners in the country. they are always looking to advance education of people who own firearms. they will caution against any effort to jeopardize second amendment rights in this country to people to bear arms. i expect that they would express sympathy. they anticipate this is a step that is coming from the hill and the white house. martha: it does make you shake your head and say, is there a difference that can be made by this? i was shocked when you're talking points this morning. you enter it shareable experience of gun violence as an 18-year-old. how does that affect you at all this? >> well ,-com,-com ma when i was eight years old, we had an attem
martha: you know, a lot of people have criticized the silence from the nra. we understand that they will speak out today. people feel, many of them, that their voices will join this chorus to call for an end to certain weapons and that would be a good thing going forward. what do you say to this? >> i expected the nra will say that this is not, to their mind, the responsibility of people that are legitimate gun owners in the country. they are always looking to advance education of people...
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the nra gave kingston an "a" rating for his voting record today. today this staunch advocate opened the door for change. >> we see a huge problem like this, and it's a problem that is happening in other countries as well. we look for something that, okay, what can prevent it? and i think that's where we need to go with this discussion is, yes, put gun control, more gun control on the table. >> on the surface, the comments are very encouraging. but when things get specific, we can understand why this country has so much difficulty arriving at common sense gun safety. >> connecticut has the fifth toughest gun control laws in the country, including an assault weapon ban that bans 35 different weapons. the weapon used was not an assault weapon, therefore it wasn't banned. >> the definition of assault weapons has been gamed by the gun lobby in the service of the gunmakers, no doubt. if the bushmaster rifle with 30 rounds per clip doesn't qualify as an assault weapon, the term "assault weapon" in my opinion is absolutely meaningless. i wanted to get some
the nra gave kingston an "a" rating for his voting record today. today this staunch advocate opened the door for change. >> we see a huge problem like this, and it's a problem that is happening in other countries as well. we look for something that, okay, what can prevent it? and i think that's where we need to go with this discussion is, yes, put gun control, more gun control on the table. >> on the surface, the comments are very encouraging. but when things get specific,...
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the nra is repeating this story in their new campaign ad. they are spending more than $1 million on air time. the ad is running in four swing states. here in florida, ohio, virginia, and wisconsin. there have been mass shootings in all four of those states recently. wisconsin is still reeling from the temple shooting in august. meanwhile, the nra says the president of the united states hasn't taken away guns because he's waiting until his second term, and that's when he's going to do it? it will be interesting to see if voters believe this fairy tale. by the admission of the vice presidential candidate for the republicans, barack obama has not offered up any new gun legislation. but it cuts to the cultural issues of gays, guns and god in the heartland in america. i'm joined by montana governor brian schweitzer. good to have you with us. you've heard the story before. how damaging is it and how many holes does it shoot, ironically, into the conversation about the president of the united states being a gun grabber when you have paul ryan sayin
the nra is repeating this story in their new campaign ad. they are spending more than $1 million on air time. the ad is running in four swing states. here in florida, ohio, virginia, and wisconsin. there have been mass shootings in all four of those states recently. wisconsin is still reeling from the temple shooting in august. meanwhile, the nra says the president of the united states hasn't taken away guns because he's waiting until his second term, and that's when he's going to do it? it...
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but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn it is guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply lose in the general election. the public has lost its appetite for the nra's political agenda of unlimited access to guns. >> you know, debra, the nra has remained very quiet in the wake of this tragedy, and often in the wake of other school shootings. and then come out pretty hard against legislation down the road once attention has faded away. do you think it's going to be any different now? do you think there is a change in the public's attitude? >> well, we'll have to wait and see. i can tell that you in tennessee they were quite hypocritical of
but only if they tow the line 100% on the nra's agenda. and if they deviate at all, it is made very clear to them that the nra will turn it is guns on them and support a challenger and will take them out. and that has happened on a few occasions and people understand in the republican party that they can't cross the nra. well, i think that's going to change. it's going to have to change if the party is going to survive because what happens is, as we saw the last time around, the nominee simply...
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but i heard you say today's nra is not your father's nra. what do you mean by that? >> well the nra, and to some extent today, is about safety training, gun courses, apartment a lot of activities that were funded and made sense from the perspective, you know, of teaching people how to use a gun in a way that was safe and it was about rights. finding for what the folks really believed in to have a gun in your home for self-defense. it's where most of the mayors have been and most of the public. most of us were happy to have that fight over with to decide what regulations were reasonable. the nra is a $240 million-a-year organization. i think anybody who thought they were going to have a victory and go home was wrong. the way they've reacted is to push more and more extreme laws and legislatures throughout the country to whittle away at basically even the most commonsense restriction, like for example, a gun that barely pass add law and the governor vitoed it to carry guns in day cares and places of worship and schools. >> what do you think of the statement that the on
but i heard you say today's nra is not your father's nra. what do you mean by that? >> well the nra, and to some extent today, is about safety training, gun courses, apartment a lot of activities that were funded and made sense from the perspective, you know, of teaching people how to use a gun in a way that was safe and it was about rights. finding for what the folks really believed in to have a gun in your home for self-defense. it's where most of the mayors have been and most of the...
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he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonig tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record in the just completed election, they had a less than 1% success rate in terms of all the money in the millions and millions they spent trying to defeat the president. but what i think is important, lawrence, you're starting to see the benefits of being with the nra, and sort of not risking them in opposing an election, are starting to be outweighed in being associated with them. i mean, the nra doesn't exactly have a sterling reputation here, they are the ones trying to clear the way to stop states from banning machine guns, to bring back the dillinger, so they're not actually a friend you want to
he won with a 29% margin, defying the nra, even before tonig tonight. defying the nra in kentucky. they were giving him a failing grade. they could tell he was not using their talking points even prior to now. there is a lesson there, it seems to me, as he was saying, in the ability to override the nra when it comes down to the real election for congress. >> yeah, you know, absolutely, and mayor michael bloom berg says that the nra is really just a paper tiger. if you look at their record...
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and the nra makes their first statement following the newtown massacre. tonight republican congressman jack kingston of georgia is here to define his party's message on assault weapons. and congresswoman carolyn mccarthy reacts to the president's statement. >>> social security is officially on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. david cay johnston tells me if there is any way that makes any sense. >>> and senator bernie sanders on how progressives intend to fight. plus, bob shrum and joan walsh on plan b. >>> and a real scare in syria turns into a real happy ending. tonight we'll tell you how nbc's richard engel escaped from his kidnappers. >> i'm very happy that we're here this morning. >> thanks for watching. it may be a rare moment in gun history, but the nation is focused on gun control following the massacre in connecticut. the national rifle association finally broke its silence on the newtown shooting. a statement released today by the organization said, in part, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never
and the nra makes their first statement following the newtown massacre. tonight republican congressman jack kingston of georgia is here to define his party's message on assault weapons. and congresswoman carolyn mccarthy reacts to the president's statement. >>> social security is officially on the table in fiscal cliff negotiations. david cay johnston tells me if there is any way that makes any sense. >>> and senator bernie sanders on how progressives intend to fight. plus,...
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the nra twitter feed has gone silent and the nra headquarters reportedly shut down its switchboard friday and didn't return e-mails for comment. the only somethithing the nra s no comment. that's exactly what they said after the tragic shootings at an aurora movie theater this summer that left 12 people dead. the nra's silence at this critical moment is shameful and telling. and more and more, politicians are calling them out. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. there's this myth that the nra is so powerful, you go back to what happened when the democrats lost after the assault weapons ban, i don't know that you can. they want to stop this carnage. >> the american people do want to stop the carnage. the nra may not be talking. but we'll all have to make them listen. joining me now is a congressman from the brady campaign. he's also a survivor from the virginia tech shooting in 2007 when he was shot four times by a lone gunman who killed 32 people. and dana millbank, columnist from the washington post. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank yo
the nra twitter feed has gone silent and the nra headquarters reportedly shut down its switchboard friday and didn't return e-mails for comment. the only somethithing the nra s no comment. that's exactly what they said after the tragic shootings at an aurora movie theater this summer that left 12 people dead. the nra's silence at this critical moment is shameful and telling. and more and more, politicians are calling them out. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is...
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nra ceo wane lapiere. >> we care about our money. so we protent our banks with armed guards -- protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plans, courthouses. even sports stadiums. are all protected by armed security. >> i call on congress today to act immediately and appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation and do it now. >> eric: rather than go in diatribe where i think gun shows should be i'll show what you said monday. >> think about every bank you have been in to. tell me a time you have seen a bank which is not guarded with someone a professional with or without a gun or knows what he is doing. show me a bank that doesn't have a guard i'll show you a bank that will be robbed. why is not time to put trained professionals, i'm not saying arming administrators, putting someone who knows how to handle themselves and a weapon at the door of every school in america. if we do it for banks we can do it. >> eric: there may be a whole host of reason
nra ceo wane lapiere. >> we care about our money. so we protent our banks with armed guards -- protect our banks with armed guards. american airports, office buildings, power plans, courthouses. even sports stadiums. are all protected by armed security. >> i call on congress today to act immediately and appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school in this nation and do it now. >> eric: rather than go in diatribe where i think gun shows should...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in gun safety. i can think of a piece of legislation in 2007, the nixon improvement act to incentive states to report of people to be mentally disabled or a danger to themselves or others or suicidal. in to a national database. that was legislation written by the nra. passed by george w. bush. i would expect to see more efforts along those lines. around mental health. i know because i know the nra that they're interested in having a conversation. but they want to talk about what works. and unfortunately, calling a school a gun-free zone and slapping a sticker on it is an immoshl lack of attention to the issue of s
but then, even as we say that, these moments appear to be bad for the nra and run and hide but nra membership booms in these moments. gun sales boom in these moments. bushmaster sales are booming in the wake of the gabby giffords shooting, glocks boomed. they would never admit it but in a perverse way, the moments are good for them so then how do we expect them to not want the moments? >> that's a terrible thing to say. the nra does not want these moments and invests millions a year in...
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i took nra sharpshooter lessons. i have a merit badge. >> that's great. >> and it used to be like the aaa. helpful with safety and insurance. how did it change? two ways. one in the 1980s, there was a big fight within the nra and more militant people took over. and they started stoking the paranoia. but because crime was so high in areas like mine, lots of progressives said, hey, let's ban handguns. let's get raid of all guns, and that fed on the paranoia. so we should come back and say we're not going to take away your gun if you are a law-abiding citizen. the second amendment is as important as the first but no amendment is absolute like the nra's position is today. >> there are so many cross cultural rifts in this issue. the way to get everybody talking is to get everything on the table. when reagan signed the cooling off period as governor is that the black panthers actually marched on sacramento armed with their guns because they proper testing it. so there's a lot of -- there's a lot of nuances to this issue. t
i took nra sharpshooter lessons. i have a merit badge. >> that's great. >> and it used to be like the aaa. helpful with safety and insurance. how did it change? two ways. one in the 1980s, there was a big fight within the nra and more militant people took over. and they started stoking the paranoia. but because crime was so high in areas like mine, lots of progressives said, hey, let's ban handguns. let's get raid of all guns, and that fed on the paranoia. so we should come back and...
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the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful. >> also in washington, washington anchor for "bbc world news america" katty kay. >> no pieces, sorry. >> you'll write one next time. thank you. so we've got a lot to get to this morning. >> a lot to talk about today. >> those exceptions, what are you talking about? >> just in the conversation about everything you thought there were two exceptions. >> rick perry, governor of texas, and -- >> is it bob -- >> they said we need to -- we need to arm teachers. >> we have to think about it. >> somebody in the school with a gun. >> guns in school. that's great. you know w
the nra had a respectful statement. i think a lot of people showing respect on this. >> feel something may be be happening. >> feel some grown-ups, maybe. there are, of course, exceptions. >> there are a few. we have mike barnicle with us. you're not an exception. beautiful piece in "the daily news" today. we'll read that in must read. thank you very much. former treasury officials. mark ratner is with us as well. he has a must read. i'm serious. >> beautiful....
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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we will hear from the nra on this issue tomorrow. press conference is planned. what do you make of this? charles: people who own guns have a legitimate concern that ultimately the tragedy will be used to not just go after assault rifles and enhancements but to go after their guns. three hundred million guns were not used in that massacre, people are legitimately afraid they're going to lose those rights. liz: i am horrified by the trend. it is appalling. we have too many guns in this country. we have to get rid of the loophole that allows people to buy essentially assault weapons from -- without a background check. i don't think those should be on the street at all. we need save the commission that regulates toy guns and the national highway traffic commission and the safety administration monitoring cars and protecting people from cars. we need more government protection from too many guns. stuart: there must be millions of assault weapons out there in america today. if you ben them are you banning future sales or are you saying the government should go out and
we will hear from the nra on this issue tomorrow. press conference is planned. what do you make of this? charles: people who own guns have a legitimate concern that ultimately the tragedy will be used to not just go after assault rifles and enhancements but to go after their guns. three hundred million guns were not used in that massacre, people are legitimately afraid they're going to lose those rights. liz: i am horrified by the trend. it is appalling. we have too many guns in this country....
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if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up this task force to look into it. >> a task force? the media won't said that. stuart: the president proposed this and set it up. >> when i say we want to be part of the solution, not give an answer but we want to work with the vice president and the president to come of with the solution. stuart: did charles: 1 to look like they're negotiating? we want to go -- they come out and say we're going to reverse ourselves on certain things and we do agree a certain type of weapon should be -- >> is premature. [talking over each other] >> don't blame them of the show you are willing to deal
if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up...
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is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a lot in the months prior about this being sort of the sticking point, the threshold, but nancy pelosi was on record. she was on charlie rose, speaker boehner's office points this out, saying, look, let's just raise taxes on millionaires. is it difficult for house democrats to walk that back now that they've been on the record saying that? >> not particularly. i mean, we understand the gop is very good at their communication strategy. they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a
is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a...
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. >> glor: the nra says existing gun laws are not being enforced. orgaret brennan has more on what the group would change, and the reaction. >> reporter: the nra is arguing for the creation of a national database of the mentally ill to prevent them from buying weapons. the nra is also lobbying to put armed guards or police in e hools. >> itsive vice president wayne lapierre. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people-- i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. gun control laws. in a cbs news poll conducted after the fatal newtown shooting, 57% of americans said that gun control laws should be more strict. that's the highest level of support in a decade. and may provide renewed support for politicians willing to challenge the powerful nra lobby. >> new york senator chuck schumer criticized the nra vice president's argument that any attempt at gun restrictions is bound to fail. >> well, i think he's so extreme and so
. >> glor: the nra says existing gun laws are not being enforced. orgaret brennan has more on what the group would change, and the reaction. >> reporter: the nra is arguing for the creation of a national database of the mentally ill to prevent them from buying weapons. the nra is also lobbying to put armed guards or police in e hools. >> itsive vice president wayne lapierre. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our...
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and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible infringement on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of his statement today is his insistence that we have a registry for people who mental illness. if you're treated for depression, all of a sudden you're on a registry. at the same time, the nra has opposed a gun registry so we can track who has these weapons. so the nra says we want to know who has a history of mental illness, but we frankly don't want to know whether those individuals or anybody else has a gun. it just doesn't make any sense. what this stunt was today was a smoke screen to try to distract people from where this country is moving. this country is m
and i think there are a lot of nra members who agree. i think wayne lapierre today is out of step with america, out of step with newtown, but i think he's out of step with a lot of his members and i hope the whole world saw that. >> he also mentioned a mental health database. beyond the possible infringement on rights that may have, that doesn't get around the loophole that gun show sales have because they often can do without background checks. >> one of the most absurd parts of...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. if you are one of the millions of men who have used androgel 1%, there's big news. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% i
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun control legislation, they need to understand that there is nothing they can craft, no words, no verbiage that is going to prevent a guy like adam lanza from getting into a school and shooting children. it is not going to happen. there are other steps that need to be taken. david: like? >> number one, you need to have meaningful security at the front door. lanza was apparently able to break his way in. that's unacceptable. the door needs to resist what's called determined force entry attempts and the amount of time it takes -- david: some kind of wire meshing or bullet-proof glass? >> yes, t
it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try do that. david: joining us now is david katz, a former u.s. federal agent and the ceo of global security group. david, is he nuts for calling for this? >> no he's not. he's not doing a great job with the pr campaign. david: what should he be doing that he's not? >> number one, the nra needs to be committed to a dialogue where they discuss these issues and most importantly, the people who are calling for gun...
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. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the facts about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role mental health professionals need to play to reduce the violence. >> no single law, no set of laws can can eliminate evil from the world or prevent every senseless ablt of violence in our society. but that can't be an excuse for an action. >> good to have you with us tonight. folks, thanks for watching. almost 24 hours ago, president obama called for a change in this country. now it's up to all of us to make sure changes come to pass. the community of newtown connecticut is still deeply mourning the lives of 26 people, 20 of them children. the president struck an almost impossible balance of heartfelt emotion and out r
. >> this myth that the nra can destroy political careers is just not true. >> the nra's power is so vastly overrated. >> plus, the facts about the nra's power. mayor michael bloomberg's right hand power. will real america come around on common sense gun laws? >> john nichols on the conservative push to keep common sense gun laws out of the middle of the country. plus, republican obstacles to reduce violence with jonathan and alex wagner. and dr. gail saultz on the role...
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as i said yesterday, do you think the nra has power? their number one priority was to defeat barack obama. last time i checked, he's going to be innaug rated again. >> the nra has stopped tweeting. it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing its grip on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as slate points out, nra has not lost any kind of vote on gun legislation since 1999. the five republicans who voted "aye" are all gone and al gore's tie-breaking "aye" became the focus on the campaign against him. and just days before the slaughter at sandy hook elementary, they were fearmongering over gun laws. on december 5th the organization was preparing to battle with the president. we're not optimistic. we're planning for the worst. we told people to plan for gun bans and a supreme stacked with antigun judges. the president has a variety of options at his disposal. we
as i said yesterday, do you think the nra has power? their number one priority was to defeat barack obama. last time i checked, he's going to be innaug rated again. >> the nra has stopped tweeting. it also took down its facebook page on friday, just one day after it celebrated a milestone of 1.7 million likes. there are signs that the nra might be losing its grip on washington. nra member and senator joe manchin says he's rethinking his positions on gun control. but as slate points out,...
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they're joining the nra. they are buying guns by the millions because they know that's a strength to the united states of america, not a weakness. stuart: i have a very limited time left, wayne. am i right, it's millions of guns will be bought this year? can you give me a number? >> millions and millions according to every measurement. women now know that proficiency with a firearm can keep them safe. women sales are going through the roof. 23 million american women now own firearms. the american public is scared of the obama cliff if he's re-elected. they know he is coming after their guns and coming after their freedom. >> we appreciate you joining us. >> appreciate it. stuart: mitt romney is in a similar situation as ronald reagan was 32 years ago behind in the polls despite a bad economy in mid september. mike reagan is next. we will ask him the same question we asked doug schoen earlier this week. is romney just a bad candidate? >> he's certainly not been a good candidate. he's been unduly negative. not
they're joining the nra. they are buying guns by the millions because they know that's a strength to the united states of america, not a weakness. stuart: i have a very limited time left, wayne. am i right, it's millions of guns will be bought this year? can you give me a number? >> millions and millions according to every measurement. women now know that proficiency with a firearm can keep them safe. women sales are going through the roof. 23 million american women now own firearms. the...
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so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from. i think from there, we should start to pare it down and develop that idea a little bit more. >> since we do have armed people whether in our courthouses or our police stations and whatnot. i definitely think our schools would be a great place to protect our children while they're there, as well. >> we're hearing reaction for and against the nra's proposal. and we want to hear from you too this morning. what do you think of the gun lobby's idea to put armed guards in schools? you can tweet me @randikayecnn. >>> and we're remembering the victims of the newtown
so what did he say about the nra's plea? quote, a shameful evasion of the crisis facing our country. >>> connecticut congressman chris murphy represents newtown. and here's his tweet after that nra speech. quote, walking out of another funeral and was handed the nra transcript, the most revolting tone deaf statement i've ever seen. >>> and reaction from a gun shop in douglasville, georgia. >> i think where we're at as a country, i think that's a good idea to start from....
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what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot to say again about who he thinks is to blame. have a listen. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there are political -- for 20 years they always try to say it's because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. what every mom and dad will make them feel better when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy, that if some horrible
what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pierre is the chief executive officer. he is the public face of the national rifle association. going on nbc's "meet the press" this morning, he made the point again and again that he made back on friday at that press conference. that his organization will oppose legislation at adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or the sale of those high capacity ammunition magazines, and he had a lot...
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the nra is so much powerful. clearly the most powerful lobbying. >> with the republican party. >> bill: they own the republican party. 1-866-55-press. covering the waterfront here with think progress and igor volsky here on the "full court press" this morning. join the conversation at -- commenting on anything we've been talking about at 1-866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. come away armed with facts and the arguments to feel confident in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want them to have the passion. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees like our tender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. salads, sandwiches, and more. >> wow! i've never seen anything like this. >> when disaster strikes sometimes the only way out is t
the nra is so much powerful. clearly the most powerful lobbying. >> with the republican party. >> bill: they own the republican party. 1-866-55-press. covering the waterfront here with think progress and igor volsky here on the "full court press" this morning. join the conversation at -- commenting on anything we've been talking about at 1-866-55-press. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." in their positions. i want them to have the data and i want...
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in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales. george, let's begin with you and the nra. what does it mean by meaningful contributions? >> carol, fair to say, it's an open ended statement. and since that statement, since the shooting, the nra has been silent. we know their facebook page, they took that down briefly. their twitter account also went cold. now both are back up. touting this big announcement friday. what that big announcement will be we have yet to see. again, we know their website is also up and run ing. you played just a moment ago a bit of this -- this program called cannon company. that's a
in its first statement since the killings the nra has this to say. quote, out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again, end quote. cnn's george howell is following the politics and power of the nra. david mattingly shows us how talk of gun control is triggering a spike in gun sales....
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the...
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the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people. through vicious, violent video games. i mean, we have blood-soaked films out there. a thousand music videos, and you all know this, portray life as a joke. and they play murder, portray murder as a way of life. and throughout it all, too ma m in the national media, their corporate owners and their stockholders act as conspirators. >> music, video games, videos, at one point he blamed hurricanes for whatever is the bad thing that happens next. but definitely not gun
the nra rick rolled the whole country. they promised us something that sounded new, something that sounded meaningful, something you thought maybe this time would be a change, it would be worth tuning in for. something you hadn't heard before from this very important group, right? but then you tuned in, you clicked, and what you got is something that they have always done, and that you have heard many, many times before. >> there exists in this country, sadly, a callous, corrupt and...